Ep 16 | RONALD ROBINSON Transcript

Ep 16 | Ronald Robinson 

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It was just a accident. It was bad. I wasn't in my wife's frame of mind. What was that encounter like when you saw each other after you just hit his wife like that? I didn't wanna leave no witness. They happened so quick. Toby it was like a flash. I was like, wow, I can't believe I done what I did. They ended up getting you to confess to it?

They coerced me to make a statement. We've been corresponding here since 2004. Who's that? Uh, people. The victim's family. Yeah. Y'all are in contact with each other? Yes,

You are now listening to the podcast Voices of a Killer. I'm bringing you the stories from the perspective of the people that have taken the life of another human and their current situation thereafter in prison. You'll see that although these are the folks that we have been programmed to hate, they all have something in common.

They are all humans like us that admit that they made a mistake. Will you forgive them or will you condemn them? They're currently serving time for their murders and they. Give us an inside glimpse of what took place when they killed, and their feelings on the matter. Now here are the voices of those who have killed.

Welcome back to Voices of a Killer. In this episode, we are interviewing Ronald Robinson from St Louis, Missouri. Convicted of the double murders of Robert and Dorothy Follansbee in 1993. Calling us directly from bars, Ronald explains his troubled childhood in St Louis, Missouri, his time in the United States Army, and the allure of addiction.

We will explore the series of events that led Ronald down a tragic path. Throughout this conversation, we'll uncover more about Ronald's perspective on fate and redemption, and how his unwavering faith has become a guiding light in his darkest hours. This unimaginable tragedy will leave you questioning what drove Ronald to commit such a crime, and questioning Ronald's belief system of, "everything happens for a reason."

This conversation is not for the faint of heart, so listen carefully as we explore the reasons behind Ronald's actions on Voices of a Killer.

So Ronald, where are you from? From St Louis, Missouri. How would you describe your childhood? Did you have a hard time growing up, see violence? What was it like? My grandfather abused me when I was coming up as a child. Your grandfather was abusive. Is that what you said? Yes. What do you mean? Did he live with you?

Yeah. I live with my grandparents when I came up. Okay. Where was your mom and dad at? My mother was in another state. She was in California. My daddy, he was in Missouri. Did you have a relationship with your mom and dad? Not so much with my dad, but with my mother. How come she didn't live with you? She had me and my sister in 55, and my sister's boy in 54, and she left with the Californians, and left us with our grandparents.

Did you resent her for that? Yeah, in a way I did. She found us off of her mother's father and her mother's father. So your grandfather, is that the one, did he physically abuse you? Yeah. After he would do this, would he ever apologize to you? No. He was drunk at the time. What did your grand grandmother think about that?

She, she stopped hitting on me. She would defend you, your grand grandmother? Yeah m grandmother defended me yup.

Growing up under the care of his grandparents, Ronald faced a harsh reality marked by his grandfather's abusive behavior. The wounds of his grandfather's actions ran deep, leaving a lasting impact on Ronald's life. Despite having a distant relationship with his dad, he found some solace in his bond with his mother, who, unfortunately, couldn't be there for him and his sister due to circumstances beyond their control.

The emotions of resentment and abandonment are palpable, as Ronald shares the painful experiences of feeling pawned off by his mother, leaving them in the care of their grandparents. In the midst of this difficult upbringing, one bright spot emerges his grandmother's unwavering love and protection. Even as Ronald endured his grandfather's abuse, his grandmother stood as a shield defending him from harm.

This part of Ronald's story serves as a poignant reminder of the lasting impact that family dynamics can have on an individual shaping their path and influencing the person they become. But I wanted to know more. about what led Ronald calling us from behind bars.

Did you get into drugs whenever you were younger? I started smoking weed when I was young. Did you ever get into legal trouble whenever you were a young kid? Yeah, I stayed on. I had a connotation when I was in the Army. I've been in the United States Army. When did you join the Army? Since 72. 1972. That's when you went? Yep. And how old were you? 17. 17. What made you go to the Army?

What? What prompted that? I didn't know where to stay. I had to get out the house, stay with my grandfather, my grandmother. How was that? Did you enjoy being enlisted in the Army? Right? The Army. Did they station you somewhere? I said Fort Leonard Woods for bliss. What was the army like for you? Did you do pretty well in there besides getting in trouble?

Oh, the Army was cool. I've done two and a half years in the Army. Yeah, six months to go before I got out, I caught a case while I was in there. I got caught a robbery while I was in there. I was in there.

Yeah why'd you? Were you on drugs in there? Why did you do that? I wasn't good for the case. All I needed was $1,500 to beat the case. I couldn't come up with the money. So off I went to prison. I wasn't good for the robbery. You wasn't good for it? No, I wasn't good for it. That's why I told you I needed $1,500. I could have beat my case. Okay, I got you. And one of the baddest lawyers in El Paso, Texas.

How old are you when you get out of the army? When I got out of the army, they gave me a discharge in 1975. 1975? How old were you then? I think I was 20. Did you get a dishonorable discharge? Yes I got undesirable. Yes I got undesirable, they say while you remain in the armed forces, you will not commit no civil offense if you do your service to the undesirable or the dishonorably discharged.

After you get out of the Army, what happens to you then? What do you do? What direction? After I got out of the army I was in the prison. There's so many prisons for the army. For the robbery? Yeah. How long did you get? I got 42 months over seven. Okay. So you get out of prison. Did you go to federal prison? TDC. Yeah. Texas Department of Corrections.

So you get paroled out of prison. Then what direction does your life go? Oh, it was good. It was good. I stayed with my grandmother. My grandfather had passed. I went back and stayed with my grandmother and my mama. In St Louis? Yeah, in St Louis. Okay. What'd you start doing with your life then? I was working, I was working in a Hudson refrigerator.

They went on strike and I started working in Hudson Refrigerator. Then, yeah, then I left out in California in 81, and then my grandfather died. My grandmother asked me to come back there and stayed with her. They didn't have no man in the house. I went right, stayed with them. I should've stayed out in California.

I should've never came back. I was working at a bus refrigerator. I was a machine operator. Yeah. Had you committed a lot of crimes before this occurred? Nah, I was out 17 years before I caught this case. The judge asked me what happened, what you know. I said, man, I don't know. He said You had a clean record, you about 17 years.

Yeah. He said you was walking the line clean. How's prison been after all this has happened? Is it a pretty hard ride? No it ain't. No I got ya in my life now. I didn't know ya when I was out there. See I had debased myself from Yahweh when I was out there. He was trying to get my attention. I didn't pay attention that he was trying to get my attention. I've been shot three times, cut, stabbed, beat, operated on.

Still here. I wasn't under no religion banner. No, I got shot in the head in 1991, and he was trying to get my attention. I had two bullet holes in my head. It was a fracture in my brain. He was trying to get my tissue. The doctor say, boy, if you lucky God was on your side. He said, you see these two white holes here on his x-ray.

He said, he got an inner hole and an X hole. He said, God was on your side. It was a fracture from hitting the brain. I've been through the ringer, man, I've been up, I've been down. I've been all around, pushed to the side. I'm still in bounds. I ain't going nowhere to the, to the grave, until they ready for me to go, you know, so they just got the body here.

They don't have my mind. I'm not gonna submit in my mind to you who are, who are these people? To the administration, my captives. The administration. Missouri DOC? Yeah. I know who's in control of my destiny. Do you think you should be out on the streets? I believe I deserve a second chance, yeah.

Everybody makes mistakes, I'm not a person. We're human beings, just persons. I'm not a person, I made a mistake. Now, pay it forward. Do you take it personal against the Missouri Department of Corrections? No, they didn't put me here. I put myself in there. Okay. But my grandmother told me, she said, everything happened for a reason, baby. You just gotta live it out. She said it could have happened to anybody.

Ronald's decision to join the United States Army at the age of 17 offered him an escape from the harsh environment he grew up in. But even there trouble followed him leading to a robbery and subsequent prison sentence of 42 months behind bars.

Throughout his journey, Ronald's life seemed to be a series of events that shaped him. But his grandmother seems to be a constant, teaching him that everything happens for a reason. After an almost fatal shooting and brush with death in 1991, Ronald ignored the signs which he believed were from his newfound faith in Yahweh, which he later discovered during his time behind bars.

It is interesting to note that he acknowledges his mistakes and takes responsibility for the choices that led him to incarceration, which leads us to the question, what were the circumstances that led Ronald to put himself behind bars?

What was your relationship to the victim in your case? I didn't know them that well. I had been on the job a couple months. A friend of mine had brought me to the job. Asked me to go out there one day, I'll let you do work. I was a handyman. I used to do handiwork on the side. I got introduced to them, and I started working out at their house. One thing, led to another I had been drinking and messing with coca**e, but led me to commit my crime. So you were doing work on the victim's house?

No, I was working out there cutting grass, cleaning out the garage. Okay. The little minor jobs. And who were these people that were, that hired you? The Follansbees. So you're basically doing work for them and you drink lots of alcohol and what do you smoke crack coca**e? Yeah, at that time I was high, the time I committed my crime.

Yeah, so were you working at their house whenever you committed the crime or did you go back there after hours? I was at their house. Had you been plotting on it for a while, what you wanted to do? No, I wasn't plotting on it. Spur of the moment, what did you want to do, get some money from them? Just an accident that went bad, I wasn't in my right frame of mind.

Hired as a handyman to help with tasks around the home of his victims, Robert and Dorothy Follansbee. Ronald's life took a dark twist as he fell into the clutches of drug addiction. Intoxicated and under the influence of crack coca**e he found himself in a state of mind that clouded his judgment and led to a spur of the moment decision that would change everything. While Ronald's case is a stark example of the devastating impact of drug addiction, it also sheds light on the broader crack coca**e epidemic that plagued the United States during the 1980s and early 1990s.

Crack emerged in the early 1980s and quickly gained popularity due to its highly addictive nature and lower cost compared to powder coca**e. By the mid 1980s, crack had become a pervasive issue in many urban communities leading to a surge in drug related crime and violence. How did this seemingly harmless handyman reach a point where he felt compelled to act in such a tragic manner?

Was this due to his addiction to drugs or was it something else that led Ronald to snap? And what is your plan? What do you decide to do? I just snapped out. This thing I did, period. One thing led to another. I just snapped out. Lost it.

That and more after the break.

Take me back to the day that this murder occurred. What exactly happened? Take me to the very beginning. It occurred in 93. October. In 93. It was just a bad day. Yeah, you're working at these people's houses. And what is your plan? What do you decide to do? I just snapped out. This thing I did, period. One thing led to another.

I just snapped out. Lost it. How many victims were there in your case? Two. So there's two people at this house. Was it husband and wife? Yes. Did you attack them with your bare hands or with a weapon? It was a weapon. What did you have? It was like a pipe. Did you sneak inside the house and surprise them with the pipe and hit them with it?

No, I didn't sneak around them, but I was in there. You was already in the house? Yeah I was already in there. Did they trust you? yes they did. Were they wealthy people? No I wouldn't say they were wealthy but they were well off. Did they consider you a friend, a coworker, an employee? Yeah. Whenever you did it did you approach them from behind or were they facing you? . Nah it was from behind. They didn't see it coming. Nope. Were they both together when you attacked them? The one in one room and the other room. So who did you go after first? The woman. And what did her husband do when you went after her like that? He was downstairs. He had no idea. How did you attack her? Hit in the head. With what? I found pipe some metal. I found some metal down in the garage. I grabbed the metal and hit her in the head. So you actually thought about this and went, found something to hit her. When you hit her, did she fall to the ground or did she try to fight back?

No, she didn't try to fight back. She fell. She was laying in the bed. You hit her in the bedroom? Yeah. So whenever you hit her, she fell in the bed. Did you keep, continue hitting her? No, I didn't. What did that feel like, standing over somebody that you just hit them over the head with a metal pipe?

At that time, I was involved, I wasn't in my right frame of mind, I couldn't believe what I had did. Did you think that maybe you should stop after that, or you went ahead and went to the other, the husband? I wasn't thinking. Went to the other. Did you go look for the husband? I went down there and ran into him. Did he know that that had happened? No. He didn't know? No, he didn't know.

Did you still have the weapon in your hand? You got rid of it? Yeah, I got rid of it. What was that encounter like when you saw each other after you just hit his wife like that? I didn't wanna leave no witness. Did you chase after him? I just walked up behind him. What'd you do to him? I just cut him on the throat. You had a knife in your hand?

Yeah, I went and got a knife. Cut him on the throat. You approached him from behind and you sliced his throat? Yeah. Where'd you get the knife at? Out of the kitchen. What happened to him whenever you did that, the moment that you sliced his throat? He fell on the floor. I left. Was there a lot of blood? Did you cut his artery?

I couldn't really say. I know where he was bleeding, but I heard him behind the house. Did you stay there and watch him for a minute or did you leave immediately? I left immediately. Did you take anything with you? Oh, no, the intention was nothing. And what was the purpose of doing that you didn't steal anything for drug money, so you just killed them just to do it?

I can't remember what all I got. I think it was a jewelry I got from them. Yeah. That's all I got was a jewelry. Did you take that after you killed both of them? Yeah. Did you ever go back and look at the body to see if they were still dead? No, I didn't go back. No. No, I didn't go back. Did you go to a pawn shop or did you go to the dope dealer?

What you do? Uh, I went to the pawn shop. Yeah. Did they question you about where you got it? No, they didn't question me. Did you have blood on your shirt or anything like that on your hands? Uh, no. So I guess you got some cash at the pawn shop and you went and bought some crack. Yep. So were you high on coca**e?

Yeah, I was high on coca**e and alcohol. Were you smoking crack? Yeah. Trying to support my habit. That's what I did. Yeah. It happened so quick. Toby like a flash. He like, wow, I can't believe I done what I did. Yeah.

Consumed by drug addiction, Ronald committed a heinous act of violence, taking the lives of Robert and Dorothy Fallonsbee.

As he recounts the chilling details of the crime, it becomes evident that he was in a state of mind clouded by the effects of crack coca**e. The brutal attack on the unsuspecting couple leaves us grappling with the senselessness and tragedy of it all. As we try to comprehend the motives behind such a horrific act, it becomes clear that Ronald's drug addiction played a significant role in his descent into violence.

But it also leaves us with a burning question. What led Ronald to take such extreme measures? Was it the overwhelming grip of addiction, the desperation to sustain his habit, or something deeper and darker within him? Understanding the motives behind this crime presents a challenging and unsettling task, one that may offer insight into this complex interplay of drugs, desperation, and human behavior.

What was the motive? I can't explain what the motive was. So what was the purpose of killing this person? I was stressed out, man. So you did it to relieve some stress? I was stressed, yeah, you could say that. So why this person? Is it because you didn't like him or what? I couldn't really tell you, man. It ain't that I didn't like the people trying to help me and I ended up killing them.

They were trying to help you? Yeah, they was trying to help me and I ended up killing them. What did you have going on in your life that caused that kind of stress? I was staying somewhere where I wasn't welcome. I was staying with my grandmother's mama. Okay, I understand. And me and my mama, we had got into it that morning and I was stressed out instead of me dealing with it, I took my stress out on, on them people, which I shouldn't have done that.

Yeah, no, I understand the remorse and I think that's good to hear that you're remorseful and, and that's not like something that's perpetually in you. So everything happens for a reason. What do you think the reason for this is? I don't know. All he knows, only the creator knows. If you read Ecclesiastes chapter 3, it says there's a trial for everything.

These things don't happen to a person. If you read the Ecclesiastes chapter 3, what a man is caught in an evil trap. Yeah. That's what happened to me. I got caught in an evil trap. It was an evil spirit wrestling me. Yeah, I wish I could have murdered the spirit that was in me but-. Lemme ask you a question, have you ever had an evil spirit attach to you or been involved with an evil spirit or done something that you regretted and then knew that it wasn't you?

So, I actually suffer from anger issues so yes I know exactly what you're talking about. I've never killed anybody but I do have problems with anger. But whenever somebody asks me, tell me about that situation when you got angry, I can explain it in detail, which I'm trying to get out of you. I'm trying to wrap my head around how that, because I understand anger, like if they had provoked you, because I think that anger is a natural thing that we all have.

Some of us have more than others, but if they had provoked you, then that gives an idea why something occurred. But it's fascinating because these are people that are helping you. And you just sneak up on them and kill them. It's crazy, man. It was crazy. It was crazy. I've done what I did. It's what it is. I can't bring them back.

I'm sorry. People forgive me. I appreciate you saying that. I appreciate you saying that. She said, Ron, does coca**e really make you act like that? I said, yeah, it gives you a different frame of mind. That's what I was in. I was in a different frame of mind. So do you think that you should be a free man, that you wouldn't do that again?

Yeah. I would deserve a second chance. What if you got into drugs and you killed somebody again? Oh, no I have changed my ways. That was back then, I was young. I'm older now. That new way of thinking. I'm drug free. I'm drug free, I've been drug free since 1993. That would never happen again.

I'm sure as you listen to this, you are as confused about Ronald's motives as I am. Overwhelmed by his emotions, Ronald took out his frustration on the very people who were trying to help him. The weight of his addiction and a different frame of mind influenced by drugs clouded his judgment, leading to a terrible an irreversible act.

I can relate to the concept of anger issues, understanding how emotions can drive actions that one later regrets. While I've never taken such extreme measures, I acknowledge that anger can be a powerful force that alters one's behaviors. In the United States, anger management is a significant issue, with studies indicating that around 16.5 million adults suffer from Intermittent Explosive Disorder, a condition characterized by recurrent, problematic episodes of impulsive aggression. This, combined with his addiction to crack, was the perfect storm for this tragic act.

During the height of the crack epidemic in the late 1980s and early 1990s, The United States experienced a staggering increase in drug related arrests and incarceration rates. According to historical data, the number of people incarcerated for drug offenses skyrocketed from around 50,000 in 1980 to over 400,000 by the early 1990s. This alarming increase not only overwhelmed the criminal justice system, but also disproportionately affected communities of color, further exacerbating existing social and economic disparities.

While Ronald falls directly under these definitions, he does not blame the system for his plight. Rather stating that he is the reason why he is behind bars and also expressing remorse for his actions. To fully grasp the extent of his remorse, we need to understand the aftermath of the murder. What happened after he fled the scene, sold the jewelry for his one time hit up crack, and went back to his grandmother's house? Did he simply go on with his life or was he able to take responsibility for his actions?

How long after this happened did the police come to you? About two days or three days later. Did they come with a warrant or just for questions? No, they called me at my sister's house. For a warrant or questions?

Questions. Did you cooperate with them? Yeah. Did they take you down to the station and ask you? Yes. How did you do in the interview? Did you just deny it? They had everything on me. They had a witness that said I was there at the house, so I couldn't really get around it. Who was the witness that saw you there?

There was some man that came there and put it in the refrigerator at the house that day. So he was just a witness, yes. He identified me. what did you do with the two murder weapons, the knife and the pipe? Oh, I think they found one of them. Oh really? They found it. Yeah, I think they found one of them.

Which one did they find? The knife. Where did you put it? I don't remember where I put it, but they found it. Yeah, where did you put the pipe at? I threw the pipe away. Yeah, so they ended up getting you to confess to it? They coerced me to make a statement. So what made you go ahead and turn yourself in like that?

How did they coerce you? The time I was intoxicated, I just wanted to get it over with. Yeah. I was at the bottom of my frame of mind. They didn't even stand there with me. Yeah. It was a horrible thing back then. You plead guilty to it, right? Yeah, I plead guilty to it. It's the same thing that the courts have, right?

Yeah. This is why I plead guilty. I was facing the death penalty, okay? And my lawyer. And my grandmother, my mother will say, Hey, don't let 12 people condemn your life. Take the life without, because anything can happen. Laws do change. Yeah, you follow me? So my mother would say, don't take my grandmother away.

My mother probably would pass if you get he death penalty. So it was a hard decision I had to make. I wanted to go to trial, but I didn't wanna cause nobody else to get hurt. But you ended up pleading guilty to it, right? Yeah, I ended up pleading, they gave me a deal because she, they was telling me anything that happen while you in prison. Yeah. Nothing they can't do when you dead, so allow these people to be in your life.

Ronald reveals that he cooperated with the questioning of the police. But the weight of the evidence against him left him little room to deny his involvement. A witness had seen him at the victim's house, further complicating his situation.

Under the influence of substances and feeling overwhelmed, Ronald eventually confessed to the crime, though he points out that the confession was somewhat coerced due to the circumstances at the time. While Ronald mentions coercion, there is no evidence of this in any court document available to us.

Interestingly, while there is not much information about this case online, There is information about how a $20,000 reward was given to the Major Case Squad of Greater St Louis after its detectives solved the murder of Robert and Dorothy Follansbee in 1993. In this case, the reward was given to the Major Case Squad which is supported by donations and is a cooperative that shares investigators among St Louis area departments. While much about rewards is murky, particularly to police, in this case this doesn't show any evidence of police coercion or corruption. One thing that is crystal clear though, it highlights how Ronald's actions led to a greater outcry in the community, and perhaps there was very influential outside pressure on him to plead guilty.

Facing the gravity of the charges and the possibility of the death penalty, Ronald made the difficult decision to plead guilty. He wanted to spare his family further pain and turmoil, knowing that life without parole would at least ensure they could still be a part of his life. The consequences of that fateful decision would shape the rest of Ronald's life behind bars.

Something we'll find out more about after the break.

Do you feel like prison is a place where you suffer? Yeah, it's another form of hell. Hell is right here on this earth. Do you get real depressed in there? No, I don't be depressed, because I know who's in control of my destiny. Some things you couldn't get around, some things you got to learn. You know you're going to spend your last days there?

I'm not going to spend my last days there, anything can happen because the creator's in control. It's time for me to release, I'll be released. I don't depend on man to release me, I depend on the crater. and who's your creator? Yahweh. You heard of Yahweh? Yeah. That's who I worship, Yahweh. That's who I worship, Yahweh.

He's carried me 30 years of here. Do you think that your God forgives you for what you've done? Yes. I'll have no guilt or conscience. None of it. Yeah. He said, when you make peace with your enemies. I think it's Proverbs 16 or 16 through 7, when the man's ways please Yahweh. He makes peace with his enemies. Have you ever read that verse before?

Actually, I think I have when a man's ways please Yahweh. He makes peace with his enemies, so I made peace with her. Yeah, that I've been trying to call her for the last seven days. She must be outta town. We've been corresponding ever since 2004. Who's that? The people, the victim's family. Yeah. Y'all are in contact with each other?

Yes. And who is this? His daughter. The daughter sounds like she's forgiven you then. She's forgiven me. She's saying I had to let a lot of people know don't get in contact with me. She got in contact with me on the internet. How does that make you feel? good knowing that you're forgiven by your victim's loved one?

Oh yeah. And the creator yeah. Everything happens for a reason man. Everything happens for a reason. I don't forget about the creator and body and I made peace within myself.

Ronald speaks about his faith in Yahweh and how it's been a source of strength during his time in prison. He firmly believes that everything happens for a reason and places his destiny in the hands of the divine. I couldn't help but think of the irony of this belief given that his victims Robert and Dorothy Follansbee tragically died for no reason whatsoever.

Despite the challenges of being incarcerated, Ronald maintains a sense of inner peace, knowing that he has made amends with the victim's family. Surprisingly, Ronald reveals that he has been in contact with the victim's daughter since 2004, and she has forgiven him for his actions. This connection with the victim's family is rare amongst killers, and has brought him to a sense of closure and forgiveness.

Despite his mistakes in life, Ronald's story serves as a testament to the transformative power of faith and the importance of seeking redemption and forgiveness. The question to you, listener, is, does that absolve him of his crimes? Is he allowed a second chance at life outside of prison? Before we hung up, I wanted to know if he had any thoughts on what would happen to him when, as he put it, his mind finally leaves this world, and if he had a message to anybody who was in his situation.

What do you think happens to us when we die? The body goes back to the spirit, goes back to the grave. The body was turned back to the dirt. We think the resurrection will come. Do you think there's any bearing on the fact that you've taken a life on what's going to happen to you when you die? Nah. I cleared my conscience said that. I made a mistake. What would you say to anybody out there that, about drugs?

What I would say is, leave drugs alone. It cost me 30 some years in prison. Do you think the reason you're in there, the reason those murders occur, are solely because of drugs? Yeah. Yeah. I lived in a drug infested neighborhood I had a wicked woman and I was a wicked man. We was doing wicked things. One thing led to another.

Like I said, I was living a lot of stress and hell if I'd not been under stressI probably wouldn't have did it. Okay. Hey, Ronald, I appreciate you reaching out to me and opening up about what, what happened when, if I can come up with anything else, I'll let you know. Yeah, see, I don't like the phone. The phone, I like to email. I rather email if I have anything else to add to that.

I rather email in the building. I'm not a phone person. I'm gonna be honest with you, phone don't work in my behalf. My family basically wrote me off. Life without parole, oh he'snever getting out. I ain't had but one visit in 30 years, man. I'll be locked up 30 years, and I still only have one visit. One visit.

That's why I'm so glad when you came in my life. Praise God. Somebody that could understand me. Had you been wanting to tell somebody your story? Somebody to listen I'm not a bad person man. I'm not a bad person. I'm not perfect, but I made a a crucial mistake and it cost me many years in prison.

On the next episode of Voices of a Killer.

Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from Falonzo Davis, an offender at the Jefferson City Correctional Center. I had to go to court because I got shot. What do you mean you got shot? I have a finger off on my left hand. How'd that happen? And he busted the door and he shot me with a 12 gauge and I was shooting back.

I didn't hit him but he hit me. Did you shoot him in the head? Did you shoot him in the chest? It was a soldier in war. You react. But the thing is, making the right decision and my decision making that day wasn't good. This is embarassing and bad. But good man's in a situation too, you know. That's a wrap on this episode of Voices of a Killer. I want to thank Ronald for sharing his story with us today.

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